FR. AMBROSE (of New Zealand - jh)
the Amerikanets imperialists have discovered our ecclesiastical spy ring! Qvickly, dismantle the nuclear anthrax terror bombs!
This is so old already. He needs to move on to a new subject because no one is listening anymore. Its all speculation, ramblings and the devil's work. If Preobrazhensky wants to do some real, truthful, investigative work why doesn't he focus his efforts on "our" governments meddling into the affairs of Ukraine or Georgia.
At least the book is a backup source of fuel on a cold winter night.......
--Agent Silouan of SMERSH
Dear Komrades and "no good nics",
Before there was Preobrazhensky we had Fr. Alexander Lebedeff who wrote the book "Evil Fruit, the Origins and Essense of the Moscow Patriarchate". Here is Fr. Alexander explaining it all in short form back in '96!
Subject: KGB Code Names
From: "Fr. Alexander Lebedeff"
Reply-To: Orthodox Christianity
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 11:37:05 -0700
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Just a quick note re: KGB code names and Steve's question.
Unfortunately, what I've seen published regarding the KGB code names of the senior hierarchy of the Moscow Patriarchate would indicate that these were not merely code names given by the KGB to refer to prominent clergymen in the way that the Secret Service uses code names for prominent political figures.
The recently disclosed documents (internal KGB status reports) read something like this: "Agent Adamant sent to the conference of the WCC in Aukland with instructions to influence the appointment of an assistant secretary general who would be supportive of our views."
That is, they are operative code names for active agents fulfilling specific assignments.
Sad, but true.
Of course Fr Alexander Lebedeff is referring back to the days of the old Soviet Union. Preobrazhensky is referring to 2008.
Fr. Alexander wrote that well after the fall of communism, and he wrote even stronger statements in 2002. He clearly had a problem with the KGB positions well after the fall of communism!
For example, he reposted a statement from the late 90's in 2002 as a reaffirmation of his position concerning the MP. He said
"I believe that the current senior hierarchy, and especially Patriarch Alexei II were handpicked by the organs of the Soviet State and willingly participated in activities that were detrimental to the Church that were dictated by the KGB."He also said in the same statement,
"I believe that the senior hierarchy of the Moscow Patriarchate are Sergianists through and through, who lie all the time, because their very essence is lying. As Fr. George Edelstein, a Moscow Patriarchate priest stated so succinctly: Sergianists lie, they lie constantly, and not because someone is holding a gun to their heads--they do it because it is their nature--it is as natural for them as breathing."
So, Fr. Ambrose, the idea that the KGB/FSB is still involved in the Russian Church is nothing new. I don't see anything "shocking" about the claims made in the new book.
Rather than irritate all the people whom Mrs. Higginbotham has included in her posting why don't you take it up directly with Fr. Alexander Lebedeff on such as the [orthodox-tradition] list where you are both members.
Dear Father Ambrose,
Father Alexander replies only when he pleases to do so.
It is more important however to expose his contradictions than to obtain one more unconvincing explanation from a person who has lost any credibility anyhow and considers deceit as a good and legitimate pastoral approach.